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Getting started again with retribution

Postby Nicholas Rorich » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:58 pm

So im looking at getting back into warmachine.

The model and story behind Garryth have made me pick him as my caster.
Also i have a tendancy to create and play tier lists so this is going to be a tier 4 list.

Any advise on this list:

Garryth, blade of retribution
Moros
Griffon
4x mage hunter assassins
Nayl
Mage hunter strike force - 10
Strike force commander
Soulless
Mage hunter strike force - 10
Soulless
Mage hunter strike force - 6
Soulless
Mage hunter infiltrators - 10
Eiryss , mage hunter commander
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Re: Getting started again with retribution

Postby R.I.P. » Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:39 pm

Doesn't garryth really want an arc node?

Personally not a huge fan of his tier list as you lose some serious movement shenanigans in battle mages, magister, lanyssa and madelyn.

PS. where in the world are you these days?
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Re: Getting started again with retribution

Postby Charles » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:25 pm

Your not going to win a lot of Friends with that many mage hunters, as much you love Mage hunters most of your Warmachine opponents wont love them and will bombard the crap out of them, Hordes especially is going to give you problems.

Maybe have max two or one tooled up Mage hunters unit. I'm not biggest expert on them but start there and see what else can work with them.
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Re: Getting started again with retribution

Postby Nicholas Rorich » Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:15 pm

Still in tableview RIP. same as always.

charles the tier list requires 3 units of mage hunters strike force in order to meet the requirements.
Also mage hunters are the only troop type I can have.
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Re: Getting started again with retribution

Postby R.I.P. » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:03 am

Friends are over rated. You should proxy that list before buying it though. There is a ton of stuff that can only be used in that tier list which is not very good imo.
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Re: Getting started again with retribution

Postby Charles » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:25 am

I agree with R.I.P. proxy some stuff and try other units. I know you love the Tier list but try some other list with the same caster and that's Non tier and see how it goes.
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Re: Getting started again with retribution

Postby joppie » Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:42 pm

Mage huner infiltrators count as 1 of the units i think, so only need two the strike force and 1 unit infiltrators, then give both the ua if you can and soulless.
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Re: Getting started again with retribution

Postby Nicholas Rorich » Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:17 pm

Joppie the Tier 3 require 3x Mage hunter strike force units. the Infiltrators are a separate entity for this.
Also the UA are 0/1 except the soulless with are 0/3.

I checked it in War room. Charles I plan to proxy the list with RIP sometime soon.

When I was playing warmachine last had the starts of a T1 P1 vlad list involving more beserkers than u can shake a stick at.
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Re: Getting started again with retribution

Postby joppie » Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:31 pm

Ok seems you right, nvm me then
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Re: Getting started again with retribution

Postby R.I.P. » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:16 am

I can comfortably shake my stick at about 20 bersekerkers

You should drop 1 mha and change to griffon to a chimera because arc node.
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Re: Getting started again with retribution

Postby alphastealer » Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:28 am

While I can understand the appeal of this list or any skewed list, my experience with warmachine hordes is that overall, balanced is best. Skewed lists are like a sucker punch, you will only catch a decent player once. In a multi list event maybe not even once.

Sunburst menoth or flamer units will give you a hard time. Trolls in general can be a challenge. Running, tough kriels, with a storyteller giving a knockdown penalty will hurt.

By all means proxy but I would save money for a better variety of models.
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Re: Getting started again with retribution

Postby Rorrak » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:01 am

I tend to agree.

While hard skews can be good to help direct your opponents choices this one seems to have a really hard time against some standard drops.

E-Feora will make you cry, Harby will make you break down and sob and even p-Sevy with Errants won't be troubled.

This means that the menoth player only has to figure out which of your other two lists hurt him/her and pick against that those. Its a 3 vs 2 scenario. You have put yourself at a disadvantage.

Yes, that does happen anyway from time to time but only from time to time.
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Re: Getting started again with retribution

Postby joppie » Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:54 pm

I like to play balanced lists, as I dont want inherent weaknesses in my lists, although i do tend to play certain gimmicks a lot
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